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 I told Gibson that I am a Protestant, and asked whether his pre-Vatican II world view disqualified me from eternal salvation.
He paused. “There is no salvation for those outside the Church,” he said. “I believe it.”
He explained, “Put it this way. My wife is a saint. She's a much better person than I am. Honestly. She's, like, Episcopalian, Church of England. She prays, she believes in God, she knows Jesus, she believes in that stuff.
And it's just not fair if she doesn't make it, she's better than I am. But that is a pronouncement from the chair. I go with it.”
Quoted from, The Jesus War, by Peter J. Boyer.
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Much of the controversy around The Passion of the Christ relates to the Gibson family’s adherence to Traditionalist Catholic traditions. Basically, a Traditionalist does not recognize Vatican Council II’s reformations. Among other things, this means that they generally do not recognize the validity of the Popes’ authority from that time to the present, and they follow the Latin Tridentine Mass, which is why Mel Gibson built his own church. We provide links to some background information on this page.
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Church tries to cool row over Mel Gibson's film about Christ
Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington, Thursday February 19, 2004, The Guardian
The Catholic church in America was yesterday set to release church teachings on Jews and reconciliation in an attempt to cool religious passions before the release of Mel Gibson's film about Jesus.
'It Is as It Was’
By Peggy Noonan, Wednesday, www.opinionjournal.com, December 17, 2003
Mel Gibson's "The Passion" gets a thumbs-up from the pope.
Here's some happy news this Christmas season, an unexpected gift for those who have seen and admired Mel Gibson's controversial movie, "The Passion," and wish to support it. The film has a new admirer, and he is a person of some influence. He is in fact the head of the Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church. Pope John Paul II saw the movie the weekend before last, in the Vatican, apparently in his private rooms, on a television, with a DVD, and accompanied by his closest friend, Msgr. Stanislaw Dziwisz.
Shea What You Will, He's Still Off the Mark
A Response to Mark Shea
By Mario Derksen
One of the best examples of this Neo-Catholic axiom (that John Paul II is necessarily a good Pope) is found in the writing of Mark Shea. Shea is a former Protestant who has written many fine rebuttals to Protestantism, most notably his books This Is My Body: An Evangelical Discovers the Real Presence, and By What Authority? An Evangelical Discovers Catholic Tradition. However, he is also an avid defender of the novelties that have come out of Rome since the election of Pope John XXIII in 1958 and the Second Vatican Council (1962-65).
By defending these novelties, it appears evident that he pits himself against the Tradition of the Church before 1958. This is becoming more and more visible now as the Vatican is clearly following a pattern of enabling or even bringing about the subversion of the Church's teaching on the evangelization of Protestants, Jews, and Muslims. This has occurred through various means, such as the appointment of heterodox bishops and cardinals to key posts related to these issues and by holding highly questionable or even scandalous events such as the Pope's "interfaith prayer meetings" of Assisi in 1986 and 2002. These policies and practices have the plain, practical effect of contradicting Christ's divine command to convert all nations, and the infallible dogma that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church.
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“Yahoo!” web sites having anything to do with The Passion of the Christ are "hot." It was among the most popular topics searched-for the week it opened on Yahoo.com, meaning Roman Catholicism just became popular... evangelical Christians packing out theatres, but relatively few Roman Catholics bought tickets, I’m told. And fewer former Catholic, evangelical Christians went, either, I’m guessing. We grew up on “the sufferings of Christ,” bathed on that message from the cradle.
Let twenty million "recovering Catholics" in the evangelical church assure you: that message doesn’t get anyone “saved.”
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The American Ecumenical Catholic Church is a part of the Independent Catholic and Old Catholic movements which consist of various catholic bodies operating independently of Vatican while upholding time-honored tradional Catholic Creeds and liturgies, the centrality of the Gospel and the Sacraments.
We are committed to work for social, economic and religious justice on behalf of the marginalized and we have a special ministry to those who are not fully welcomed or sacramentally affirmed in other denominations because of gender, divorce, remarriage, sexual orientation, physical, psychological or mental challenges.
BACKGROUND TO A DILEMMA
Simon Wiesenthal Center’s Introduction: Interfaith Cooperation
Not too many decades ago, the Jews were branded as Christ-killers—as deicides. Judaism was caricatured as a fossilized religion, and Jewish-Christian dialogue was virtually unknown. This has changed dramatically. Many Christians have always repudiated anti-Jewish stereotypes. Certainly, we can all learn a lesson in courage and sacrifice from righteous men and women like Pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer who was martyred by the Nazis during World War II for trying to save Jews from Hitler’s “Final Solution.” And who among us is not inspired by such shining examples of courage and faith as Sister Alfonsja (Eugenia Wasowska), who at the age of 19 in 1939 became director of a Catholic orphanage in Przemysl, Poland, and then secretly sheltered 13 Jewish children until the end of the war?
Many articles and much information about Neo-Catholicism and articles about the concerns of Traditionalists and news about them.
A free online version of America’s oldest Traditional Catholic bi-weekly magazine established in 1967 to work for the preservation of the traditions of the Roman Catholic Church in the modern world.
Alperin v. Vatican Bank was originally filed in Federal Court in San Francisco in November 1999. The plaintiffs are concentration camp survivors of Serb, Jewish, and Ukrainian background and their relatives as well as organizations representing over 300,000 Holocaust victims.
The plaintiffs seek an accounting and restitution of the Nazi Croatian Treasury that according to the US State Department was illicitly transferred to the Vatican bank and other banks after the end of the war.
Name defendants currently include the Vatican Bank, Franciscan Order, and the Croatian Liberation Movement. These defendants combined to conceal assets looted by the Croatian Nazis from concentration camp victims, Serbs, Jews, Roma and others between 1941-1945.
Levy v. CIA is a lawsuit filed under the Freedom of Information Act seeking release of US Intelligence agency files regarding the notorius Vatican spymaster, Fr. Krunoslav Draganovic. New records on Draganovic were released as a result of that lawsuit in 2001.
What's Catholic About 'The Passion'? A Lot
By Jennifer Waters
The Stations of the Cross, the Sorrowful Mysteries of the Rosary, and Catholic mystics' visions shape Mel Gibson's work.
What's in "The Passion of the Christ" that's not in the Bible? Mel Gibson has said that while drawing most heavily from the Gospels, he also based his movie on extra-biblical sources, many of which fuel his Catholic faith. Scenes corresponding to the Stations of the Cross, the Sorrowful Mysteries of the Rosary, and visions of Catholic mystics appear in the film.
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